THE THOUGHTS 1967
THE THOUGHTS 1967

 

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Peter Beckett 
was born in the Aigburth section of Liverpool England. In the early sixties, he began taking an interest in music; listening to his older brother's records, and "air" guitaring with a tennis racket to the radio. He was also greatly influenced by listening to Radio London and Radio Luxemburg. Like most teens in the 60's, he was greatly influenced by The Beatles. He would frequent some of their lunchtime sets at the famous Cavern Club. Because he was under legal age
, his older brother would smuggle him into the club. He was impressed with what he heard and saw, and decided that this was what he wanted to do with his life. He later moved to London and spent almost ten years there during the "Swinging London" days. 

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THE THOUGHTS*

In 1966, Peter joined a band called The Thoughts, who had originally recorded as the backing vocals for Tiffany(Tiffany's Thoughts). In this guise, they released two singles on Parlaphone Records called "I Know" and "Find Out What's Happening". They also backed other local bands such as Paul Dean, and Johnny and John. In 1966, they switched to Planet Records and made their debut as 'The Thoughts' with "All Night Stand". A comparatively risque single for the times, the A-side was a Ray Davies composition, produced by Shel Talmy. Along with Alan Hornby on bass, Phil Boardman on lead guitar, Dave Croft on drums, and Peter himself on guitar and vocals, they released 'All Night Stand' on September 30, 1966. Two different versions were released of this single, a slower version in the UK, and a more upbeat version in the US. Requested by Shel Talmy, owner of Planet Records, Ray wrote this song for a movie based on a book by Thom Keyes, also called 'All Night Stand', for 20th Century Fox. The book concerned the trials and tribulations of a young Beat band, loosely modeled on the rise of the Beatles. However, the movie was never made. 

Although the single by The Thoughts received great reviews from the critics, it just barely made the charts. The B-Side, 'Memory Of Your Love', was equally as good and written by Peter and Phil Boardman. This single was recorded on the Planet label and distributed by Phillips Records Ltd. Innovative in being an independent record label in the 60's, Planet lasted only a year but produced 22 singles and two albums by such bands as The Kinks, The Who, The Creation, The Easy Beats, to name a few. In the later years, The Thoughts took on a lead singer named Denny Alexander, formerly of Earl Preston's Realms. The band also made a video short called "Girls In Short Short Dresses".(see info below) Two of their unrecorded songs were played during this video, called "Pretty Girl" and "Call Me Girl".
When chart success eluded the band, the group broke up going their own separate ways. 

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SINGLES*

PLANET RECORDS 1966
PLANET RECORDS 1966



A-SIDE  ALL NIGHT STAND (Davies)

B-SIDE MEMORY OF YOUR LOVE
   (Beckett, Boardman)

Band Members: Beckett, Boardman, Croft, Hornsby

Produced by: Shel Talmy's Orbit Productions
Release date: 30 Sep, 1966
Record label & catalog #: Planet PLF 118
Country: UK
Format: 7" vinyl single, 45 RPM

Produced by: Shel Talmy's Orbit Productions
Release date: Oct 1966
Record label & catalog #: Planet 45-118
Country: USA
Format: 7" vinyl single, 45 RPM

LIVE RECORDING 1966
LIVE RECORDING 1966



1. PRETTY GIRL

2. CALL ME GIRL

Band Members: Beckett, Boardman,Croft, Hornsby

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*VIDEOS*

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"Until You Love Someone"


Beat Beat Beat

German TV 1967

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"If You Don't Come Back"

Beat Beat Beat

German TV 1967

          "Girls In Short Short Dresses" 
        Film Clip (1966)


Paramount made this topical film in the final days of the theatrical short subject era, to capitalize on the worldwide interest in then very-Swinging London. It stars actual mod band The Thoughts, who are best known to collectors for their recording of Ray Davies' otherwise unreleased song "All Night Stand," on Shel Talmy's Planet Records label. In this previously unheralded Technicolor film, they perform two songs, "Pretty Girl" and "Call Me Girl", in the famous Blaise's nightclub. In a reverse on the usual rock band scenario, they chase girls around tube stations and Carnaby Street boutiques. The film also makes a visit to the studio of fashion designer Mary Quant, inventor of the mini-skirt.

This film is owned Jay Schwartz, a film collector from Philadelphia, PA. Jay runs an event every weekend called Secret Cinema at Moore College. Secret Cinema is a project that was started in 1992, after Jay sensed a need to expose new audiences to neglected films of all kinds. Fore more info:
http://www.thesecretcinema.com/
 


 

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DENNY ALEXANDER

Singer Denny Alexander first came to prominence with Liverpool soul/mod specialists The Clayton Squares, who produced two great singles for Decca in 1965-1966. After a brief spell with The Thoughts, he joined the London-based Motivation, whose guitarist was none other than future Jethro Tull axe man Martin Barre. When the band changed name to The Penny Peeps in late 1967, Denny composed the band’s original material, most notably the mod-rock classic “Model Village”.

From Denny's interview on The Thoughts:
A lot of people were under the impression The Thoughts came from London especially after being introduced on Beat, Beat, Beat not Beat Club as “From London –The Thoughts” but they were a Liverpool band and I had known the bass player Alan Hornby for some time. In fact, Alan was with me at The Marquee when Cream played.

As the Squares were breaking up, The Thoughts had moved into the same hotel; they had backed a girl singer in Liverpool called Tiffany but had branched out on their own but after a while decided they wanted a lead singer. I just happened to be on hand and they knew me. They had just recorded a Ray Davies’ song called “All night Stand” but it didn’t take off for them. We did quite a bit of work in Germany but played a lot in the UK as well coming to an end in Carlisle when the van packed in. It was too expensive to repair and we couldn’t buy another so endeth The Thoughts. Great shame as I enjoyed my time with them.

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PHIL BOARDMAN  

Phil has been in Norway since early 80`s and is quite happy,writing,recording, and playing. Now, with new album "All This Confusion" with Shaun Ashworth, who is also his partner on songs, all is well. Phil still plays piano bars and does session work in Norway, where he has lived for twenty years.

For more info on Phil:
www.boardmanashworth.blogspot.com

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DAVE CROFT

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ALAN HORNBY

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*TIFFANY AND THE THOUGHTS*


Find Out What´s Happening / Baby Don´t Look Down (German )

1965 German - Odeono 23 244

 

Superrare German-only issue of great UK 60s freakbeat
garage 2-sider from the fanastic UK beat garage outfit 
The Thoughts (of All Night Stand -fame) with female
 lead singer Tiffany
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TIFFANY(Irene Green) 1965
TIFFANY(Irene Green) 1965

TIFFANY 

was a rock singer formerly known as Irene Green in England, in the 60's. She had been the lead singer in the Liverbirds, one of the toughest sounding all-girl bands of that era. She exited their ranks in 1964 and joined the Dimensions, a Liverpool-based soul outfit (also known as "Tiffany's Dimensions.") George Martin produced their one single for Parlophone, a cover of "Tears on My Pillow." She next emerged during the summer of 1965 as Tiffany on "Am I Dreaming" b/w "I Know". In 1966, she released a single -- "Find Out What's Happening" b/w "Baby Don't Look Down" -- on Parlophone as Tiffany & the Thoughts, backed by a local quartet, who later recorded on their own, consisting of Peter Beckett on vocals and guitar, Phil Boardman on lead guitar, Alan Hornby on bass, and David Croft on the drums. Tiffany herself seems to have disappeared as a recording artist after 1966, but "Am I Dreaming" was later resurrected as the title track for an excellent RPM Records British girl-group compilation CD.


The Thoughts: All Night Stand Review

Something familiar in the melody? If so, pat yourself on the back - it's a Ray Davies song, and the gentleman generously contributed it to these guys through the, ahem, "mediation" of Shel Talmy. I've heard the Kinks' own demo version on their Great Lost Album, and it hardly sounded better (especially since Dave was singing it, if I'm not mistaken). Describing a Ray Davies vocal hook is a pretty useless matter - yeah, Cicero would fail at this, too, so let me just say it ain't one of his best, but it's got the trademark Kinks charm to it, and these Liverpudlians, fortunately, are able to preserve that charm, even if they're hardly able to expand on it. Too bad this was their only single, but at least we got to hear the song in a full-clad arrangement as performed by somebody

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Beat! Beat! Beat! was a West German rock music series. It was produced in Frankfurt (Frankfurt am Main), by the Hessischer Rundfunk network. Beat! Beat! Beat! premiered in 1966. Mal Sondock was the host of Beat! Beat! Beat!. The American-born Sondock first became well-known in Germany as a DJ with the US Armed Forces Radio network. He then worked in German radio and TV. Other Beat! Beat! Beat! regulars were organist Cherry Wainer and drummer Don Storer. In the late 1950s, the two were regular performers on the British TV series Oh Boy. 

Originally on: Syndicated (45 min.)
Status: Ended Premiered: January 1, 1966 Last
Aired: January 1, 1969
Show Category: Variety Shows 

For more info: http://www.furious.com/Perfect/beatbeatbeat.html



Tiffany & The Thoughts appear on the following compilations:

THE THOUGHTS

1966
MAY 29 All Night Beat Boat, Liverpool-Freddie Starr& The Delmonts,The Hideaways, Graham Bond Organization, The Fabulous Klubs, The Royal Caribbean Steel Band
SEPT 4  Locarno Ballroom-with Powerhouse 6

1967
APR 9 Locarno Ballroom-with Powerhouse 6

Tiffanys Thoughts

• Irene (Tiffany) Green vocals ex Liverbirds/Dimensions
• Phil Boardman lead guitar
• Alan Hornby bass guitar
• Dave Croft drums
• Pete Beckett rhythm guitar

• Irene (Tiffany) Green vocals ex Liverbirds/Dimensions
• Phil Boardman lead guitar
• Alan Hornby bass guitar
• Dave Croft drums
• Pete Beckett rhythm guitar
• Marion Hill keyboards Memphis R&B Combo

The Thoughts
• Phil Boardman lead guitar
• Alan Hornby bass guitar
• Paul Comerford drums
• Pete Beckett rhythm guitar
• Marion Hill keyboards Memphis R&B Combo

• Phil Boardman lead guitar
• Alan Hornby bass guitar
• Dave Croft drums
• Pete Beckett rhythm guitar
• Marion Hill keyboards Memphis R&B Combo

• Phil Boardman lead guitar
• Alan Hornby bass guitar
• Dave Croft drums
• Pete Beckett rhythm guitar
• Denny Alexander vocals /guitar

• Phil Boardman lead guitar
• Alan Hornby bass guitar
• Dave Croft drums
• Pete Beckett rhythm guitar

also backed Johnny and John Paul Dean(Nicholas)